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What difference between suggestion and manipulation of psychologists in social engineering?






  25-Nov-2021 20:23:56



I have something strange and feel confused about difference suggestion and manipulation of psychologists in social engineering is the same thing? Or there's a difference. I think it's  same, social engineering and suggestion the goal of influencing someone is it true?


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Saya bukan jurusan psikologi. Mungkin menurut saya ada sedikit perbedaan. Saya juga berpikir demikian ke dua nya adalah hal yang sama tetapi setelah saya baca terdapat sebuah perbedaan, menurut saya


sugesti : Menanamkan rasa kepercyaan pada diri anda sendiri dengan pemicu. Contoh jika Anda mendengar dan mengucapkan kata "saya yakin bisa" maka Anda akan terasa bersemangat dan merasa bisa, percaya diri pada suatu hal, di dalam keyakinan agama terdapat sugesti misalnya Anda beragama A saya beragama B Anda percaya pada kitab A dan saya percaya pada kitab B jika saya membaca kitab B akan merasa senang dan nyaman, jika Anda memabca kitab B Anda tidak akan merasakan apupun tetapi jika Anda membaca kitab A sesuai dengan keyakinan Anda kemudian Anda akan mendaptkan sesuatu hal misalnya merasa nyaman dan senang, ibarat sugesti seperti ini


teknik ini bisanaya digunakan para pesulap atau hipnotis


manipulasi psikologi(social e) : Meyakinkan seseorang agar melakukan sesuatu yang kita inginkan di dalam alam bawah sadar mereka. Secara tidak sadar mereka melakukan hal yang kita inginkan. Misalnya diskon pada suatu produk kita bisa terpengaruh dan membeli produk itu. Jika di dunia hacking ibaratnya seperti kita ingin mendapatkan identitas seseorang secara langsung dan orang itu tidak sadar memberikan data pribadi nya kepada kita dengan cara menipu dan meyakinkan supaya target Anda masuk ke dalam jebakan seperti iming iming hadiah, install software, masuk ke dalam situs teretntu dan lainya


Menurut saya ini adalah hal yang sama. Tetapi konteks akan membuat berbeda dari ke dua hal ini. Maaf jika saya salah, ini adalah pendapat saya




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Sorry i forgot, there is english 

I'm not majoring in psychology. Maybe I think there is a slight difference. I also think that both are the same thing but after I read there is a difference, I think


Suggestion: Instill a sense of confidence in yourself with a trigger. For example, if you hear and say the word "I believe you can" then you will feel excited and feel you can, be confident in something, in religious belief there are suggestions for example you are religious A I believe in B You believe in the book A and I believe in the book B if I read book B you will feel happy and comfortable, if you read book B you will not feel anything but if you read book A according to your belief then you will get something for example feel comfortable and happy, like suggestions like this


This technique is usually used by magicians or hypnotists


psychological manipulation (social e): Convincing someone to do something we want in their subconscious. Subconsciously they do what we want. For example, a discount on a product we can be affected and buy that product. If in the world of hacking it's like we want to get someone's identity directly and that person unknowingly provides his personal data to us by deceiving and convincing your target to fall into a trap such as the lure of gifts, install software, enter into certain sites and other


I think this is the same thing. But context will make a difference between these two things. Sorry if I'm wrong, this is my opinion




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26-Nov-2021 20:44:59



Check your Telegram please i have job for you!


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26-Nov-2021 23:40:16



Done 


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28-Nov-2021 00:21:07



Do you have recomendation powerful tools for hacking?


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28-Nov-2021 11:27:03



Web pentesting or something? 


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16-Dec-2021 22:41:51



Anything you know!


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17-Dec-2021 00:11:00



Hmmm i don't now more about web pentesting, in my case i usually used owasp and nikto 


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18-Dec-2021 22:38:43



How about pentesting network security?


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18-Dec-2021 23:57:56



Hmmmm im use nmap, ettercap, wireshark and yersinia


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21-Dec-2021 19:01:52



Let check your Telegram messages i'm have problem


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22-Dec-2021 04:01:13



Ok but wait. Now im bussy, i slow respon in telegram


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